Not necessarily, and certainly not in that order, according to author and activist Naomi Klein. The author of the movement-defining book "No Logo" is back with her first book in five years, "The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism."

She examines the relationship between crisis and radical economic reform in Pinochet's Chile, apartheid-era South Africa and present-day Iraq among others, and finds a troubling trend: Unchecked capitalism and democracy don't always get along so well.

In an asap podcast, OTIS HART speaks with Klein about how the theory is playing out in Iraq -- and gets the other side of the story from Bill Beach of the Heritage Foundation, who sees free markets as a key step toward creating a free country.

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"The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism" came out Sept. 18 from Henry Holt & Co.

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Otis Hart is an asap staff reporter, based in New York.

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